| Ticker | Name | Research | View | What he said | At |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| UBER | Uber Technologies | QT · SA · STK · FA | Positive | Maintaining Buy (entered ~$84, now ~$70). ~$10B FCF growing 42%, 18x trailing FCF, PEG 0.64; SOTP DCF $110–130. AVs are a tailwind not a threat — Uber's network gives AV operators ~30% higher utilization; as AVs remove the ~70%-of-fare driver cost, take rate rises (~$20B incremental revenue at 20% AV penetration). A "toll booth" across 14+ AV partners. | read |
| TSLA | Tesla | QT · SA · STK · FA | Neutral | The "Tesla marginalizes Uber" bear narrative: Tesla's AV service is still in testing with ~60 fatalities attributed to its autopilot vs zero driving deaths from Waymo tech failure — Hay thinks an Uber/Tesla cooperative relationship is more probable than displacement. | read |
| EXPE | Expedia Group | QT · SA · STK · FA | Neutral | April partnership lets Uber's 202M MAUs book hotels in-app — "the first tangible step toward a travel super-app" competing structurally with Amazon Prime. | read |
| NVDA | NVIDIA | QT · SA · STK · FA | Neutral | Partner in the Munich robotaxi test (with Uber and Autobrains) that went live this week — one data point on the widening AV footprint. | read |
| AMZN | Amazon.com | QT · SA · STK · FA | Neutral | The super-app comparison/competitor — Uber's Expedia tie-up is framed as the first move toward something that "competes structurally with Amazon Prime." | read |
| BIDU | Baidu | QT · SA · STK · FA | Neutral | One of the 14+ AV partners and a customer of Uber Autonomous Solutions' white-label suite — part of the "toll booth across all AV winners" thesis. | read |
| WRD | WeRide (ADR) | QT · SA · FA | Neutral | Uber's robotaxi-ops partner — launched Spain's first commercial robotaxi pilot in Madrid and runs the live Riyadh/Abu Dhabi ops; a flagship AV-partner relationship. | read |
| PONY | Pony.ai (ADR) | QT · SA · FA | Neutral | An AV partner and Uber Autonomous Solutions white-label customer — part of the 14-partner toll-booth network. | read |
| LCID | Lucid Group | QT · SA · STK · FA | Neutral | The Lucid-Nuro partnership is how Uber deploys its own AV supply in San Francisco — rebutting "Waymo kills Uber" by showing Uber also owns AV capacity, not just dispatch. | read |
| Waymo | Waymo (Alphabet unit) | — | Neutral | The "Waymo kills Uber" bear case rebutted: 500k weekly rides vs Uber's ~24M daily trips (>300:1; ~170:1 even at Waymo's 1M target), and Waymo's own data shows 30% higher utilization dispatched via Uber vs its standalone app. A lead AV partner, not a killer. | read |
| DHER | Delivery Hero (Frankfurt) | — | Neutral | The first bear narrative: Uber lifted its stake to 24.99% and explored a full takeover. Hay's counter — Delivery Hero's Talabat dominates food delivery across nine GCC countries, the same markets where Uber has Vision 2030 AV ops; owning the AV platform + the food network = a Gulf super-app. | read |
| IBM | International Business Machines | QT · SA · STK · FA | Negative | Moved to a Sell and pulled off the Hold/Trim list. Up ~50% since his Jan-29-2024 highlight (despite a 14% pullback off last week's spike), now its highest valuation in a decade — P/S and P/E loftiest in 25 years. Raising cash on "ominous" market signals + concentrating on best ideas; ~22x 2026E vs UBER's 18.6x. | read |
Everyone's afraid self-driving cars (robotaxis like Waymo) will put Uber out of business. Hay argues the opposite, and the key is one fact: a robotaxi only makes money while it's carrying a paying rider — an idle car earns nothing. Uber already has the riders — 202 million monthly users opening the app, 40 million trips a day. So a Waymo car that takes jobs from Uber's app stays busy about 30% more of the time than one waiting for fares in Waymo's own app. That makes Uber the most valuable thing to a robotaxi operator: the demand. So instead of competing with the AV companies, Uber signs deals with all of them — 14-plus partners (Waymo, WeRide, Pony.ai, Baidu and others) — and takes a cut of every autonomous ride. That's the "toll booth": Uber doesn't need to pick the winning robotaxi maker, it gets paid no matter who wins.
There's a second twist that actually makes Uber more profitable as robotaxis spread. Today, when you pay for an Uber, roughly 70% of the fare goes to the human driver and Uber keeps ~28% ("take rate"). Remove the driver and that 70% is up for grabs — Uber can keep far more of each fare. On Uber's ~$193B of annual bookings, shifting even 20% of trips to robotaxis could add roughly $20 billion of new revenue. So the thing the market fears (AVs) is actually the thing that could fatten Uber's margins.
Meanwhile the business is already humming — revenue up 20%, free cash flow up 42%, the subscription (Uber One) and advertising businesses growing fast — yet the stock has fallen from ~$84 to ~$70, which is only about 18x its cash flow and cheap relative to its growth (PEG 0.64). Hay's read: the market has misjudged the AV story, which is exactly why the stock is cheap, and that's why he's keeping his Buy. Almost every analyst (45 of 46) agrees it's a Buy, with fair-value estimates of $110–130.
Hay flagged IBM a couple of years ago as a bargain; it's since risen ~50% and is now the most expensive it's been in a decade — its price relative to sales and earnings is the highest in 25 years. The cheap-stock reason to own it is gone. With the broader market flashing what he calls "ominous" warning signs, he'd rather hold cash and own fewer, higher-conviction names — so he's selling IBM outright (a rare move for him) and redeploying toward ideas like UBER, which is cheaper (18.6x next year's earnings vs IBM's 22x). His closing line: "cash is definitely not trash" — sometimes the best move is to bank the gain and wait.
Summary & excerpts derived from the paid Haymaker Substack post (saved text in transcript.txt) for personal study. Not investment advice. © Haymaker / David Hay for source material.