Doomberg — "The Dangerous Reality of Our Current Economic Crisis"

0:00 Cold open — "the other side can punch back"

• "There's a narrative that saturates western propaganda of omnipotence, that in the end no adversaries would dare cross certain lines. And the real world — people punch back."
• "Iran has proven that not only can the other side punch back, but occasionally they're willing to punch back… you're very quickly put in the position that Trump finds himself in, which is the escalation options are uncalable" — escalation is unattractive but is "the only real face-saving way out."
• The recurring critique they get, restated without apology: "one of the reasons you shouldn't start a war is because you might lose it."

1:50 "Digest mode" — always on the cusp of resolution or escalation

• "There's a lot of digesting going on of historically consequential events and we always seem to be on the cusp of either resolution or escalation."
• Why that state is itself the problem: "the bifurcation of those two possible outcome states are so far apart that standing in between them is a bit unsettling" — anxiety-inducing, and markets, economies and cultures get conditioned to absorb it.
• A note of resistance to the conditioning: "it's not normal. The world need not be this way… It hasn't always been this way."

2:23 A CIA director in Moscow — the omen that cuts both ways

• Breaking as they record: "reports coming out of Moscow that CIA director John Ratcliffe paid a surprise visit to Moscow. Kind of ominous, I suppose."
• "Maybe this terrible disastrous war might be brought to an end. Or maybe like the last time a CIA director visited Moscow, the war is about to escalate."

2:50 Canada, and "Schrödinger's Strait of Hormuz"

• "The burgeoning trade dispute with Canada… really throws into the air many of our foundational assumptions as it pertains to the North American energy market."
• The Middle East state of play, coined: "sort of Schrödinger's Strait of Hormuz. It's both open and closed at the same time depending on who you ask."
• The method for cutting through it: read the energy markets — "we try to extract as much useful information from those markets in order to ascertain which camp full of spin we should be residing in on any particular day."

5:10 The hopeful branch — Bessent's FT editorial as face-saving cover

• "Let's hope that the bluster of Scott Bessent and his really shocking editorial in the Financial Times is the cover for a face-saving exit to the war in Iran and not the beginning of a long protracted economic war between the US and China, because that's what those threats ultimately amount to."
• "Let's hope that Xi Jinping's visit to Washington at the end of this month… goes off without a hitch."
• The framing of the whole era: the transition "from dominant US hegemony to a more balanced multipolar world" — ideally "with less war and less economic uncertainty."

6:14 The stark branch — four fronts that could light at once

• Middle East: "destruction of the oil and gas producing facilities across the Arab Gulf states."
• Ukraine: "drone making facilities in NATO countries are targeted by Russia's formidable inventory of high precision ballistic missiles."
• Taiwan: "China launch a blockade of Taiwan at probably the most inopportune time considering that there are no US aircraft carriers in the Pacific."
• Korea, the low-probability tail they keep pondering: "if North Korea wanted to make a move, you would think that a certain window has become available."
• The coordination risk is the actual point: "if all of these things were to happen all at once in a coordinated fashion, it's unclear to us what the US and its allies would do about any of them, let alone all of them."

7:34 The omnipotence narrative, restated as the episode's spine

• The cold-open passage repeated in context — western propaganda assumes "no adversaries would dare cross certain lines," and the counter-evidence is that Iran did.
• The consequence for the aggressor is positional, not moral: if you aren't prepared to take the return blow, your remaining options are all bad ones.

8:46 Short political cycle vs long capital cycle

• The host's frame: elections mean "there's only so much pain that they want to put up with," and adversaries only need to outlast it.
• Doomberg's version, from the energy seat: "the capital planning cycle of heavy industry is longer than the political cycle of most western democracies" — the structural reason long-lived assets are hard to finance in a two-year system.
• An aside on the word democracy: "we can quibble about the extent to which the US is still a democracy… I use that word prior to its semantic shift."

9:33 "Agreement capable" — the JCPOA precedent

• The borrowed term: the US and its European allies "are viewed in the rest of the world as not being agreement capable… a phrase that the Russians have been using for many years, and I'm sure we will be called purveyors of Russian talking points for even bringing it up."
• The exhibit is Iran, not Russia: a deal negotiated with the Obama administration, "stamped with the approval of the United Nations Security Council, which is the governing body of the post-World War II economic and military world order," with the Europeans as guarantors — "that Trump promptly ripped up when he became president."
• The argument is deliberately decoupled from whether the deal was good: "if you think Obama was an idiot for signing it… that's fine. You're certainly free to believe that. But from the perspective of the other side, they cut a deal with the Americans."

11:04 Why opponents wait rather than deal

• The live question for any counterparty: "do you cut a deal with Trump now, who is at least on the surface a wounded political entity when the Democrats look set to regain at least some of the levers of power? Do you wait?"
• The asymmetry: "the political cycle in China is much longer than the two-year electoral cycle of the US… the political cycle of Iran is much longer than the US political cycle."
• The resulting strategy: opponents "bide their time, call their shots, move when it's to their advantage, pause when it's not. It's a real issue" — and one "rarely acknowledged in the western media."

12:02 Offshore wind — tens of billions incinerated on a political whim

• The disclaimer first: "we're no fans of wind as a technology… we would frankly agree with President Trump's various executive actions" — so the point is about process, not policy.
• What was done to investors who followed government direction: Washington told an industry and its banks "that the government was going to put 30 gigawatts of offshore wind off the Atlantic coast and you needed to be doing this now… and then with the swing of a few votes in seven states in the US all of that got destroyed."
• "Tens of billions of dollars worth of risk capital was incinerated on a political whim" — with the caveat that "everybody understands it's called investing, not printing."

13:31 …and the same ask is now being made on Venezuela

• The cautionary tale pointed forward: "oil and gas companies who are being badgered by the Trump administration to invest in Venezuela."
• "What happens when President Noem or President Harris or President AOC come along and decide that— oh yeah, all those billions that you were strongarmed into deploying, yeah, sorry, just go ahead and mark those zero."
• The cumulative cost: "you rip up enough deals that have been passed by the United Nations Security Council… then suddenly the rest of the world might take their time, might demand more show than tell at the upfront of such deals."

14:56 Canada's red line: a deal that can't be reopened

• Read straight from the weekend Canadian papers and a just-broken New York Times report: "one of the things that caused the negotiations to break down was a desire on the part of the Canadians… to ensure that once the deal is agreed and locked, it can't be modified. And apparently the US balked at this."
• "It's one of those meta effects of the US political system that doesn't get recognized perhaps as often as it should."

15:59 Argentina, RIGI — and why Guyana was worth so much

• The host's diagnosis, accepted: this "basically just sounds like an emerging market." Doomberg: "Look, this is Argentina, right? Milei is confronting this right now as he tries to get global capital to develop Vaca Muerta."
• Why the frontier keeps moving: "the easy deposits in the friendly jurisdictions are exploited and you go around the world in search of the next Guyana." And the real source of Guyana's value: "it's not just the quality of the resource. It's the fact that that jurisdiction was there to be shaped effectively by Exxon."
• RIGI explained: a large-investment tax credit that lets foreign investors repatriate profits far faster — a fix for the fact that being forced to hold profits in a debasing peso "is effectively a crippling tax."
• The flaw that no statute can fix: "no law that Milei passes can bind future governments in Argentina" — and Milei is "a volatile character if there ever was one." The warning for Washington: "the last thing US diplomacy needs is to be considered the Argentina of geopolitics."

19:11 Military options exhausted → the financial weapon

• On the Middle East endgame: "short of nuclear weapons, which we don't think actually will solve the issue, there is very little… of satisfactory military options."
• The tell in who is speaking: "this is why you see Scott Bessent taking the lead. It's not Pete Hegseth anymore that is publishing bellicose editorials in the Financial Times."
• "A remaining and not yet fully tapped weapon in the US inventory is of course the financial one. But that comes with some risk."

19:53 Treasuries' product is neutrality — and the barrel is warming

• "What makes the holding of US treasuries attractive, at least historically, is its neutrality and its liquidity."
• The weapon has already been fired repeatedly — "against Iran, China, Russia, North Korea… the combatants in World War III as we would describe it since 2014."
• The cost per shot: "with each iteration, with each firing of the cannon, the gun barrel gets a little warm and the attractiveness of holding treasuries — setting aside the fiscal situation in the US — the attractiveness from a neutrality and a liquidity perspective diminishes."
• The precedent that generalises: "if the US can participate in the freezing of the foreign reserves of a P5 country and co-victor of World War II… what is to stop Secretary Bessent from freezing your reserves? Fill in the blank country A B C D E."

21:53 The Alberta thought experiment

• The weekend lateral-thinking premise: "Canada halts all oil exports to the US. Perfectly possible. It's their physical property. They're a sovereign country. The prime minister can invoke emergency powers."
• Why Canada could actually execute it: "given the proportion of oil that is actually mined in the oil sands as opposed to drilled for, it would actually be comparatively easier for Canada to do that than say Iran, Russia."
• The axiom it would break: "the US is a global energy superpower in large part because it is a captive customer of this heavy oil from Alberta. And if suddenly that flow stops, then you have a real energy crisis. Forget the Strait of Hormuz."
• Their base case is still no: "we don't think Carney will do that. We actually have a different view as to what's actually going on which we're writing about right now." But the tail has fattened — Trump is "talking about renaming Lake Ontario" and the premier of Ontario is telling him where to go.

23:31 Who wants treasuries — into $2 trillion a year of issuance

• "In a world where Canada might come under fire from the US, why does Brazil want to hold any US treasuries? Why does South Korea… now that Trump cancelled military exercises with South Korea and is making romantic overtures to Kim Jong-un? Why does South Africa, a BRICS country… Pick your favorite country. Why would any of them? Why would New Zealand?"
• The conclusion: "the beating heart of the global financial system, US treasuries, the pristine collateral that it once was, is a hot potato."
• The timing is the sting: "just as the US is turning out the need for $2 trillion worth of on the run paper every year, you suddenly realize what a historic moment we find ourselves in."

24:58 Hydro-Québec, Ontario power, and refineries built for Canadian crude

• "Unless you think this is crazy talk from a green chicken" — the physical inventory of Canadian leverage: "Hydro-Québec is a major electricity provider to the US Northeast… Ontario is a major electricity provider to the heartland of the US… there are entire refineries in the Midwest that run exclusively on oil from Canada."
• "You turn all those off all at once, things get pretty interesting pretty quickly. The US has gone to war over far less."
• The domestic politics are supportive on the Canadian side: "the country is very angry, very unified and supports Mark Carney wholeheartedly… Carney would get probably a three-quarters majority in support of his position."
• On who would suffer more, the received answer is challenged: "Would it though? … Go back to Europe cutting itself off of natural gas from Russia. It didn't hurt Russia. Russia gets more gas for cheap. Canada keeps more of its oil. The price of oil goes up."

27:14 Carney vs Trump — the contrast in counterparties

• "Mark Carney is a sophisticated politician… the only living human that we know of who has been the head of the central bank of two sovereign nations."
• "Carney is a globalist delight. Goldman Sachs, Harvard, Oxford I believe, Bank of England, Bank of Canada, Brookfield Asset Management — as well trained and as sophisticated as they come. And so here we are."
• The behavioural read on the other side: "last I checked Trump doesn't handle it well when people punch back," and the Truth Social posts point "down the road of escalation."

28:05 The tell: Bessent did not name the Chinese banks

• "Trump's post over the weekend, January 1st for the tariffs. I kind of view that as a walkback dressed in colorful language."
• "The fact that Bessent did not name the major Chinese banks… makes his entire editorial in the Financial Times toothless." Every question at the press conference was "are you saying China or not? Because literally China's 90% of the problem."
• The corroborating inference: "if Bessent had rolled out sanctions against the major Chinese financial institutions, I don't think you'd see Xi Jinping in Washington this month."
• The unfired next rung, flagged by the host: sanctioning Chinese companies and banks directly.

29:38 What gives hope — at least they're talking

• "One of the things that we take some solace in is the fact that the CIA director was in Moscow today… at least they're talking to each other at a diplomatic level where decisions and deals can be made and agreed to."
• The ideal outcome set: "a reasonable deal… in Ukraine that takes into account both Russia's and Europe's national security considerations. A détente… in the Middle East. Trade disputes between friendly neighboring countries… settled in an amicable and equitable way."
• Self-aware about the odds: "my version of happiness is naivety. What can I say?"
• On the remaining downside rungs (including Russia cutting Europe off this winter): "lots of escalation rungs on the ladder. Probably no need to cover them all here because none of them are good."

31:33 The one message to take away

• "It's important to confront reality. Opponents sometimes punch back. Geopolitical actions have consequences."
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