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Actionable insights — Hunting for Value in Mining Stocks

The repeatable analysis behind the book: not what Muddy Waters owns, but how it screens junior miners, kills bad projects early, tests a resource for fraud and sizes its patience — written so the process can be rerun on the next unloved development-stage miner.
2026-SEP-13 · Other People's Money — The Monetary Matters Network · Freddy Brick — partner, Muddy Waters Capital · ▶ Watch · full analysis · transcript
How to read this page: each insight is a method — a screen, a test, a sizing or hedging rule — with the boxed line showing how it played out in this interview and a "watch for" list for re-running it. Brick's fund owns ~20% of MFG and has promoted SGD.V, so the examples are also his book. Timestamps deep-link into the video.

6:34 1. Underwrite at every metal price of the last 10 years — not the bull case

The repeatable method
  1. Pull the metal's price range over the last ten years (low, high, typical).
  2. Run the project economics at the low end of that observable range. If it "probably works" there, it qualifies; if it needs "gold goes to 6,000," it doesn't.
  3. Prefer metals with long forward pricing curves (iron, copper, gold, silver) so the exposure can be partly hedged.
  4. Cap exposure to any single metal instead of expressing a price view.
  5. Then run the book at a moderate net (~50%) so drawdowns become buying opportunities rather than margin events.
Here: "We actually don't have a huge view on metal prices" (1:31) — yet with gold near $4,000, assets that pass a decade-old price test sit "left for dead."
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21:31 2. Screen for "unspectacular but not hairy," then hunt for the kill factor

The repeatable method
  1. Skip what the market already prices well: high-grade open pits and the flashy drill-hole story.
  2. Look instead at decent assets: moderate grade, ~2 Moz with a path to 3–4 Moz, modest capex, a credible permitting route and local buy-in.
  3. Before any valuation, list what would kill the project outright — a unique ecological constraint ("a one-of-one salmon fishery"), or a jurisdiction where the mine can "be stolen from you or the economics… recut."
  4. If a kill factor exists, discard the name however cheap it looks: "it doesn't matter if it trades at a fraction of any theoretical valuation."
  5. Among survivors, favour operational, share-count-conscious teams whose de-risking has gone unnoticed — the probability of a mine rising "while the share price hasn't."
Here: the profile behind MFG — "a phenomenal project that's relatively straightforward with manageable capex" (56:34).
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13:34 3. Turn the consensus bear case into a checklist and verify each item

The repeatable method
  1. Write down every reason the market gives for disliking the asset (topography, First Nations, infrastructure, capex, metallurgy).
  2. Go and check each one "with a very open mind" — site visits, stakeholder conversations, technical reports.
  3. Tick each off as true or false. If the objections fall away, what remains is "a really attractive asset."
  4. Build a meaningful stake and, if needed, engage management (privately first, then public letters).
  5. Expect the exit to be a major that needs reserves.
Here: GT Gold — ravine too steep? No. First Nations band allow a mine? Yes. Infrastructure? Yes. A ~10% stake, then a takeover by a major (14:26). The same lag played out in Artemis and "IM Gold" (ARTG.V, IAG): doubted at a half-empty Denver Gold Show, then "they built them and they rerated."
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9:02 4. The smearing test — overlay the block model on what is actually being mined

The repeatable method
  1. Get the published block model and the drill-hole database (post-Bre-X, holes must be disclosed).
  2. Find where a few metres of grade have been given influence over a large volume of rock — thin intercepts extrapolated far.
  3. Compare against where the pit is actually being mined and against reported grade/production.
  4. If mining is concentrated in the smeared zones and output disappoints, you can show the gap "in real time" instead of arguing geologist versus geologist.
  5. Be most suspicious of nuggety gold deposits, which "often disappoint" once mined.
Here: the 2017 Asanko Gold short (GAU, now Galiano) — rock being removed from places "the block model had been smeared" (9:58).
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12:22 5. Keep a statement log — a pattern of shifting explanations is evidence a non-expert can judge

The repeatable method
  1. Record management's specific claims with dates.
  2. Note each later excuse or reversal ("oh no no, we never told you that").
  3. If the story changes quarter on quarter with no physical reason, treat it as "a pattern of deception" — you don't need to out-geologist the company.
  4. Validate independently (meet the original analyst, do your own work) before acting.
Here: Darren McLean's log of Asanko's changing guidance was what let Brick "feel very comfortable" and publish (12:49).
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28:21 6. Judge the backers and the raising skill — count the shares at build, not the dilution today

The repeatable method
  1. Assume the company will raise money repeatedly until the mine is built.
  2. Ask who will write the next cheques: proven, prominent backers (a mining family, a respected group) versus none — otherwise "you're either going to write the whole check yourself or the project's not going to move forward."
  3. Rate management on raising at rising prices; the metric is shares outstanding once the mine is built.
  4. Don't dismiss a promotional team if substance is there — "good operators with a good project with good capital markets know-how" leaves shareholders better off.
  5. Best entry: good backing plus a stock that has gone sideways for years.
Here: FDY.TO Faraday Copper — Lundin-backed, a CEO they knew, flat for four or five years when bought (28:48).
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18:20 7. Fish where institutions are structurally barred

The repeatable method
  1. List the constraints that stop large holders: daily liquidity (a few million dollars), single-name concentration limits, TSX Venture listings, sub-$5 share prices.
  2. Screen for good assets that trip those constraints — their buyers must wait for an uplisting, a share consolidation or a 10x move.
  3. Expect the rerating to come as the constraint lifts (price rises, liquidity grows, exchange upgrade) and "lots of people get involved."
  4. Match your own fund structure to it: a lock-up so you can hold the illiquid names for years.
Here: the macro framework — capital fled juniors after 2011 (materials under 1% of the S&P) — and the reason the fund accepts being "subscale" (15:22).
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38:40 8. Map the depletion-driven buyer list — who must buy, and what is buyable

The repeatable method
  1. Treat producers like pharma facing patent cliffs: reserves deplete and majors rarely discover.
  2. Check their balance sheets — clean, often net cash, means capacity to buy.
  3. List projects that are permitted, near construction or in construction — the "next available group" — i.e., those that raised capital through the quiet years.
  4. Expect restrained premiums (CEOs remember last cycle's write-downs), so the target's share price may need to rise first.
Here: SGD.V Snowline Gold as a "no-brainer takeout" for a major wanting a district — with the caveats that it is consensus and long-lead (39:57).
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44:40 9. Don't hedge juniors with the junior ETF — hedge impairment, size binaries, trim beta

The repeatable method
  1. Recognise the basis risk: an orphaned junior (a new fund manager selling "26 days' volume") can fall while GDXJ rises on macro inflows.
  2. Make the primary risk control the entry price: "what is the risk of permanent capital impairment?" and what event would change your view.
  3. Avoid binary events, or size them small with appropriate skew.
  4. When a position rises on sector beta rather than de-risking, trim and wait to rebuy at an asymmetric price.
  5. Hedge the tail with index shorts, the metal, and option structures for downside convexity.
Here: a court-case asset "recently trimmed" after it "went up a lot on beta" (46:19); GDXJ named as the mismatch.
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55:31 10. Budget 3–5 years and track milestones, not the share price

The repeatable method
  1. Set the holding horizon at three to five years before buying; align capital with a lock-up.
  2. If a stock runs away, wait — "3 or 6 or sometimes 12 months" often brings it back.
  3. During the wait, keep a milestone ledger (management upgrades, permits, studies, quality of new shareholders) and re-check the work.
  4. Judge the thesis by the ledger; accept that the market's recognition date is unpredictable.
Here: MFG — proxy win, new CEO and CFO, Oaktree on the register, "and the share price just is what it is" (56:58).
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Methods distilled from the public YouTube video (Other People's Money, The Monetary Matters Network, 2026-09-13) for personal study. Not investment advice.