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Rick Rule — 10 Gold & Silver Stocks Graded (This Happens Once in 50 Years)

A ranking episode: Rule grades 19 gold/silver/copper/uranium names on his 1 (best)–10 (worst) scale, with the macro behind each sector — gold's "1975 redux," silver sold at the parabolic top, copper's $250B/decade deficit, and uranium's "sure money ahead."
2026-JUN-17 · Capital Cosm · host Danny · guest Rick Rule (Rule Investment Media) · ~54 min · ▶ Watch · transcript · actionable insights
One-line take: Rule reads gold's pullback as a near-perfect rerun of 1975 — higher real rates demolished gold (then −50%) until Congress lost its nerve nine months in, cut rates, and gold ran 6 years from $100 to $850; he thinks the rate-cut capitulation is a "when, not if." Silver follows gold's lead and he sold 80% of his physical silver into January's parabolic top (a rule: "I always sell parabolic up charts"), but the silver stocks were priced for $40–45 silver so they've held up. Copper is a locked-in structural deficit — current output already short of consumption, the 10 largest miners need $250B (constant-2025) over a decade just to maintain output, and Friedland's data-center math implies more copper used in the next 15 years than in all human history — so rationing-by-price barring a depression. Uranium's "easy money" ($20→$80) is over but the "sure money" is ahead: above-ground stocks drawing down, uranium gone from pariah to politically correct, and the Hormuz conflict reviving energy security (a 1973-embargo echo). Oil could test $60 near-term then scarcity bites from a billion-dollars-a-day of underinvestment — be right, sit tight, or add if your horizon reaches 2029–30. Grades and timestamps below.

1. Stocks & names mentioned

TickerNameResearchViewWhat he saidAt
AEMAgnico Eagle MinesQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveRanks it a 4 (1=best, 10=worst) and is buying more — "the price action is wonderful because I'm trying to buy more." Operationally "easily the best gold mining company on the planet": wonderful mine builders, disciplined capital allocators, a built-in 5-year production-growth pipeline. He'll host CEO Ammar Al-Jundi at the July Symposium.9:21
FNVFranco-NevadaQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveRanks it a 4 (could become a 3 if it keeps falling) — "the finest gold-oriented company on the planet." Always looks expensive on conventional metrics because it's valued on NPV; lowest G&A-to-revenue in the industry. He thinks the next round of big streaming deals (driven by copper miners selling gold/silver streams to fund the $250B capex) is ahead, not behind, Franco and Wheaton.11:57
GFIGold FieldsQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveRanks it a 4 because the production profile is "so bullish" — a major that's done a reasonably good job on both sustaining capital and new-project investment; he expects substantially higher production and profitability 2 years out. Disclosed he does not own it (unlike Agnico and Franco).14:09
PAASPan American SilverQT · SA · STK · FAPositive"Easily my favorite silver stock" — ranks it a 4. Did a very good job assimilating the Yamana assets, but the real draw is unpriced optionality: two deposits (Guatemala, Argentina) with 500M+ oz of high-grade silver each (either, if politics permit, would double output), plus ~500M oz in the skarns beneath La Colorada. "More than any other silver company… has upside baked into the cake."27:30
SCCOSouthern CopperQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveRanks it a 4 and owns it, though "it wouldn't surprise me to see that chart break down." Wonderful opportunities, okay capital allocators, "lots and lots and lots of political risk — not for the faint of heart."34:58
FCXFreeport-McMoRanQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveRanks it a 4 and owns it — "crossing myself" because the 4 assumes they repair the significant damage at Grasberg (Indonesia) and keep handling "the extortionate demands of the Indonesian government."35:22
BBarrick MiningQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 "as it sits today," but could easily raise it to a 4 if the future plan clarifies: spin off the North American assets (possibly combined with Newmont's into "the most valuable gold mining company on the planet"), merge the African assets with Endeavour's, and sell Reko Diq (Pakistan porphyry), likely to Zijin.11:24
NEMNewmontQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 (up from a 6 on strong quarters + a lower share price); expects to raise it further if gold stays soft and the quarters stay good. The chart doesn't reflect internal improvement, the tier-two-mine sell-off, the best pipeline ever, or the "outside possibility" of a North-American combination with Barrick.7:49
AGFirst Majestic SilverQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 and owns it — not for relative valuation (price-to-NAV alone he'd call it a 6) but for the skill set of fixing large undercapitalized silver deposits, plus a $100M+ investment in PR and a "cult" shareholder base that responds aggressively to good silver news. One big failure: Jarrett Canyon, still being worked out.25:28
FNLPFFresnilloSANeutralRanks it a 5 and is "tempted to upgrade it to a four"; owns it. The drag is political: like its parent Peñoles, it carries the risk of Mexico's anti-mining president, who also dislikes the dominant economic class that controls Fresnillo/Peñoles. "I court conventional political risk."26:54
BHPBHP GroupQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 and owns "a lot of it" — would be a 4 if it were purely copper, but most of its free cash flow comes from iron ore, and he expects global iron quotes to fall as the new Simandou mine (Guinea) ramps and China jawbones Australian prices down.36:20
RIORio TintoQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 — "identical comment" to BHP: "this is an iron company in drag." (Also flagged as a potential foreign buyer of NexGen via its Saskatchewan phosphate operation.)36:56
GLNCYGlencoreQT · SAPositive"I've liked Glencore a lot" — ironically more for its coal than its copper (bought a Colombian 30-year mine life at 1.5× free cash flow). Lots of political risk and acquisition-tactics/corruption questions, but "easily the best of the major mining companies" on capital allocation / return on capital — more a multi-strat miner than a copper play, with management as very large shareholders.37:19
CCJCamecoQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveRanks it a 4 and is a large shareholder. His worry — could they operate Westinghouse after buying it, transitioning from pure miner to miner-and-engineer — has been answered by the last three quarters: "they can and they are." "I can't imagine a better franchise to be part of for the next 10 years."42:02
NXENexGen EnergyQT · SA · STK · FAPositive"Love and hate" — ranks it a 4 and owns a lot (zero remaining cost basis). The finest and largest undeveloped uranium deposit on earth — buildable by the junior, or saleable at auction to Cameco, Rio Tinto, or the new Anglo Tech (Anglo American + Teck). Would be a 3 if not for excessive G&A (he singles out Formula 1 sponsorship) and capital raises that look aimed at entrenching management.43:41
KAPKazatompromSTKNeutralRanks it a 5 on a valuation basis (a larger company than Cameco on reserves) but no longer owns it — penalizes for the "massive defection of middle management" he can't explain; the high-quality people he was attracted to 6–7 years ago have left. "If there's a risk I don't understand, I sell."42:49
UECUranium Energy CorpQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 (a 6 on valuation alone), owns a lot at zero basis — "a victim of their own success." Marked up to 5 for the likely US-produced-uranium premium: 3–4 years out, likely "far and away the largest US domestic producer," gone from hated to likely-subsidized under the Trump administration.46:18
UUUUEnergy FuelsQT · SA · STK · FANeutralRanks it a 5 and owns it, but "a less committed shareholder" — has sold enough to take his basis out and pocket profit. Doesn't have UEC's franchise but shares some of the same benefit: a permitted mill and tailings facility. "Bullish on the whole uranium sector over time."47:34
WPMWheaton Precious MetalsQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveNamed alongside Franco-Nevada as the key streaming peer — Wall Street wrongly thinks the big transactions are behind them; he believes they're ahead (copper miners will sell huge gold/silver streams to fund the $250B capex, as in the recent BHP-to-Wheaton deal).13:08
TECKTeck ResourcesQT · SA · STK · FANeutralReferenced as half of the newly formed "Anglo Tech" copper giant (Anglo American + Teck, Vancouver) — named as a potential buyer of NexGen's deposit.44:56
XOMExxon MobilQT · SA · STK · FAPositiveHis shorthand for the whole energy trade — "I've been talking about Exxon for as long as I've had a voice." Different price 7–8 months ago vs today, so it's a function of your time frame; "my own Exxon, which I hold at a much lower price, is not for sale."51:45

"View" maps Rule's 1–10 rank (1 best) to a stance: a 4 = Positive, a middling 5 = Neutral (often "tempted to upgrade"), a 6 = Neutral-to-Negative on commentary. Hecla (a 6 he doesn't own, with capital-allocation criticism) is folded into the talking points rather than rated as a position. Passing references not rated as rows: Endeavour Mining (Barrick African-assets merger), Reko Diq / Zijin (sale), Yamana (PAAS acquisition), Peñoles (Fresnillo parent), Simandou (BHP iron context), Westinghouse (Cameco). Research: QT Qualtrim · SA Seeking Alpha · STK Stock Analysis. Barrick trades under the ticker B; Fresnillo (LSE: FRES) tracked here via its OTC line FNLPF.

2. Talking points

2:00 Gold — higher real rates, and a 1975 redux

6:59 The ranking system — a free, subjective snapshot in time

7:49 Newmont (5) — a 6 upgraded on good quarters

9:21 Agnico Eagle (4) — "buy more," operationally the best

11:24 Barrick (5, could be 4) — the spin-off / Reko Diq question

11:57 Franco-Nevada (4) — why royalties look "overpriced" but aren't

14:09 Gold Fields (4) — bullish production profile, doesn't own it

15:01 The Rule Symposium — vetted, money-back, "Living Legends"

21:07 Silver — follows gold's lead; fear vs greed

21:58 Why he sold 80% of his physical silver in January

25:28 First Majestic (5) — valued holistically, not on NAV

26:54 Fresnillo (5, tempted to 4) — Mexican political risk

27:30 Pan American (4) — optionality not in the price

28:57 Hecla (6) — capital-allocation criticism, prefers PAAS

30:30 Copper macro — structural deficit vs near-term economic risk

32:50 The $250B math — and Friedland's data-center claim

34:58 Copper names — SCCO (4), FCX (4), BHP (5), RIO (5), Glencore

38:51 Uranium — "easy money" done, "sure money" ahead

42:02 Uranium names — CCJ (4), KAP (5), NXE (4), UEC (5), UUUU (5)

48:54 Oil & gas — $60 test near-term, then scarcity

51:45 Exxon — the energy bellwether, "not for sale"

3. In plain English

A jargon-free summary of the thesis behind each graded name — what it actually is and why he ranks it where he does. (Plain-language companion to the table above; renders on each ticker's consolidated page.)

AEM — Agnico Eagle Mines Positive

Agnico is a big, well-run gold miner, and Rule's highest gold grade here (a 4 on his 1-best-to-10-worst scale). His point is simple: the people running it build mines on time and on budget and don't waste shareholders' money, and there's a clear five-year plan to dig up more gold each year. The falling share price doesn't bother him — it lets him buy more of a company he thinks is the best operator in the business, not just the cheapest stock.

FNV — Franco-Nevada Positive

Franco-Nevada doesn't dig mines — it's a "royalty" company that puts up money upfront in exchange for a permanent cut of a mine's future production, so it gets the upside without the operating costs or risk. Rule calls it the finest gold-oriented company on earth (a 4, maybe a 3 if it falls more). It always looks expensive because of how analysts value future cash: a standard "net present value" calculation treats money you'll receive 10+ years out as nearly worthless today, yet Franco's mines keep producing for 30–40 years, so five years from now the math still shows the same huge value — the "over-valuation" is an illusion of the method. The contrarian bet: everyone thinks Franco's giant deals are done, but Rule expects a wave of new ones as cash-strapped copper miners sell off slices of their gold/silver output to fund the enormous spending copper requires.

GFI — Gold Fields Positive

Gold Fields is a large gold producer Rule grades a 4 purely on the numbers — he expects it to be pumping out a lot more gold, a lot more profitably, two years from now, and it's spent sensibly both maintaining existing mines and building new ones. He's transparent that he doesn't personally own it (unlike Agnico and Franco), so this is an analytical call, not a position he's talking up.

PAAS — Pan American Silver Positive

Pan American is Rule's favorite silver stock (a 4). The hidden value is "optionality" — deposits the company owns that aren't reflected in the share price because they can't be mined yet. It has two separate silver deposits (in Guatemala and Argentina) holding over half a billion ounces each; if local politics ever allow either to be developed, the company's silver output would double. There's another ~half-billion ounces sitting under an existing Mexican mine. You're effectively getting all that potential for free at today's price, which is why he says it has "upside baked into the cake" that the market ignores.

SCCO — Southern Copper Positive

Southern Copper is a large, low-cost copper producer that Rule owns and grades a 4. The catch he flags is political: most of its mines are in Peru, where the risk of government interference is high — "not for the faint of heart." He even warns the chart could break down near-term, which fits his broader view that copper stocks can wobble in the short run even while the multi-year supply shortage builds.

FCX — Freeport-McMoRan Positive

Freeport is one of the world's biggest copper miners, owned by Rule and graded a 4 — but he's "crossing himself" because that grade assumes two things go right at its crown-jewel Grasberg mine in Indonesia: that recent operational damage gets repaired, and that the company keeps managing a grasping Indonesian government. It's a high-quality, high-leverage way to play rising copper, with a single big country-risk attached.

B — Barrick Mining Neutral

Barrick (which trades under the single-letter ticker "B") is a 5 today, but Rule says it could quickly become a 4 once management spells out its breakup plan. The idea: carve out the North American mines (possibly merging them with Newmont's to create the most valuable gold company alive), combine the African mines with rival Endeavour's, and sell its giant Pakistani copper-gold deposit, Reko Diq, most likely to China's Zijin. The grade is on hold mainly because shareholders don't yet know which of these will actually happen.

NEM — Newmont Neutral

Newmont is the biggest gold miner, and Rule recently nudged it up from a 6 to a 5 because it's been posting strong quarterly results while its stock fell — a better company at a cheaper price. He thinks the share price doesn't yet credit the cleanup underway: selling off lower-tier mines, the best development pipeline it's ever had, and an "outside possibility" of combining its North American assets with Barrick's. If gold stays soft and the good quarters continue, he expects to raise the grade further.

AG — First Majestic Silver Neutral

First Majestic is a silver miner Rule owns and grades a 5 — but notably, if he judged it only on the value of its assets versus its price, he'd call it a 6. The extra point comes from things that don't show up on a spreadsheet: a genuine skill at turning around starved, neglected silver deposits, and an unusually devoted ("cult") shareholder base, amplified by heavy investor-relations spending, that piles in aggressively whenever silver news is good. He's honest that the company has had a real failure (Jarrett Canyon) it's still cleaning up.

FNLPF — Fresnillo Neutral

Fresnillo (a London-listed Mexican silver giant, tracked here via its US over-the-counter line FNLPF) is a 5 Rule owns and is "tempted to upgrade." The single thing holding it back is Mexican politics: the country's president is openly anti-mining and hostile to the wealthy families who control Fresnillo and its parent company Peñoles. Rule's comfortable taking that kind of ordinary political risk — "I court conventional political risk" — which is exactly why a good business sits at a discounted grade.

BHP — BHP Group Neutral

BHP is a mining giant Rule owns a lot of and grades a 5. His key insight is to look past the headline: people think of it as a copper play, but most of the actual cash it earns comes from iron ore, not copper. And he expects iron-ore prices to fall as a huge new mine in Guinea (Simandou) comes online and China uses new ore sources to push Australian prices down. So if it were purely copper he'd grade it a 4 — the iron exposure is what dings it.

RIO — Rio Tinto Neutral

Rule's verdict on Rio Tinto is the same as BHP and gets his sharpest line: "this is an iron company in drag." In plain terms — Rio is marketed and thought of as a diversified/copper miner, but where its money actually comes from is iron ore, which he expects to weaken. A solid 5, useful copper exposure, but you should know what's really driving the cash flow. (He also names Rio as a possible buyer of NexGen's uranium deposit, via its Saskatchewan phosphate business.)

GLNCY — Glencore Positive

Glencore is a sprawling miner-and-trader Rule likes — but, as with the others, for a reason that isn't the obvious one: he rates it more for its coal than its copper, pointing to a Colombian coal mine it bought dirt-cheap (a 30-year mine for 1.5× its annual cash flow) when nobody wanted coal. He calls it the best of the big miners at allocating capital and earning returns, with management owning huge personal stakes. The caveats are real: lots of political risk and lingering questions about how it does deals in emerging markets, including corruption allegations. He thinks of it as a "multi-strategy" miner rather than a pure copper bet.

CCJ — Cameco Positive

Cameco is the West's premier uranium company, owned by Rule and graded a 4. His one worry had been whether Cameco could successfully run Westinghouse (the nuclear-reactor business it bought), turning itself from a pure miner into a miner-and-engineer — and he says the last three quarters answered that: "they can and they are." He's not promising the stock goes straight up, but says he "can't imagine a better franchise to be part of for the next 10 years" as nuclear demand grows.

NXE — NexGen Energy Positive

NexGen owns what Rule calls the finest, largest undeveloped uranium deposit on the planet (in Saskatchewan), and he owns a lot of it — so much, and bought so cheaply, that he's already pulled all his original money out. He grades it a 4 and says it's rich enough to be built by NexGen itself or sold at auction to Cameco, Rio Tinto, or the new Anglo-Teck "Anglo Tech" combine. The "love and hate": he thinks management spends too freely (he singles out sponsoring a Formula 1 race team) and structures fundraising to protect its own control. Fix that and he'd grade it a 3 — a rare, very high rank for him.

KAP — Kazatomprom Neutral

Kazatomprom is the world's largest uranium producer and, on the value of its reserves, even bigger than Cameco — Rule grades it a 5. But he no longer owns it, and the reason is a discipline he applies everywhere: a large, unexplained exodus of mid-level managers, many of them the very people who first attracted him to the company. He can't explain why they left, and "if there's a risk I don't understand, I sell" — so a cheap stock gets a middling grade and no position.

UEC — Uranium Energy Corp Neutral

UEC is a US uranium developer Rule owns heavily (and, like NexGen, has already recouped his original investment from). On the raw value of its assets he'd grade it a 6 — "a victim of their own success," meaning the stock has run up — but he marks it to a 5 because he expects American-mined uranium to command a price premium, and UEC is on track to be by far the biggest US producer in 3–4 years. It's gone from being a hated outsider to a company likely to be subsidized by the Trump administration on energy-security grounds.

UUUU — Energy Fuels Neutral

Energy Fuels is another US uranium name Rule owns and grades a 5, but he's upfront that he's "a less committed shareholder" — he's sold enough to take all his original money out plus a profit, so he has less skin in the game. It doesn't have UEC's strength of franchise, but it owns something valuable and hard to replicate: a permitted uranium mill and tailings facility. He stays broadly bullish on the whole uranium sector over time.

WPM — Wheaton Precious Metals Positive

Wheaton is a "streaming" company, a close cousin of a royalty firm: it pays upfront for the right to buy a mine's future gold or silver at a fixed low price, profiting on the spread. Rule pairs it with Franco-Nevada and makes the same contrarian argument — Wall Street assumes its biggest deals are in the past, but he thinks they're coming, because copper miners facing enormous spending needs will sell off their gold and silver byproduct streams (as BHP recently did to Wheaton) to raise cash. That's a structural pipeline of future deals the market isn't pricing in.

XOM — Exxon Mobil Positive

Rule uses Exxon as shorthand for his entire bullish energy view: it's a disciplined, top-tier oil company he's owned for years at much lower prices. His honest caveat is that whether it's a buy today depends on your time horizon — near-term oil could dip to $60 if the Middle East calms down, but a decade of underinvestment (over a billion dollars a day of missing maintenance spending) makes higher prices structural by 2029–30. His own Exxon shares "are not for sale."


Summary & timestamps derived from the public YouTube video (transcript in transcript.txt) for personal study. Not investment advice. © the host (Capital Cosm) / Rule Investment Media for source material.