In short: "Diesel is $250 a barrel… a major crisis and it's really out of inventory," with "upside leverage by at least another 20 to 30% if not more in a crisis in a cold winter." US distillate is at tank bottoms, refiners run at 97–98%, imports are priced out by record tanker rates, and harvest and AI construction demand are price-inelastic.
Diesel runs trucks, farm equipment, ships and backup generators, which is why Sankey says "the global economy really runs on diesel." US stocks of it are at "tank bottoms," the lowest level ever observed. Refineries are already at 97–98% capacity, Russia has stopped exporting diesel, and shipping it in from abroad is too expensive because tanker rates are at records. Buyers can't cut back much either: farmers must harvest, and AI data-center construction runs on diesel.
So he thinks diesel prices, already about $250 a barrel, could rise another 20–30% or more in a cold winter. An accident at an overworked refinery would push them higher still. He also argues that the inflation measures the Fed watches barely include diesel, so policymakers are underrating the shock.
31:43And what we keep saying to you is diesel is $250 a barrel. I mean it's a major crisis and it's really out of inventory and it's got upside as you're dragging out of me. it's got upside leverage by at least another 20 to 30% if not more in a crisis in a cold winter. So it just seems that people still look at Brent.
In short: The real bottleneck, and the diagnostic: crack spreads that "normally might average between 10 and 20 dollars… hit 100 bucks. And they're staying there. That to me is not the sign of a very weak demand market. That's the sign of a refining problem." He believes non-OECD product inventories are down ~500M barrels against the IEA's ~50M — "an order of magnitude difference" — but the position he owns is crude, not the product.
A refinery buys crude and sells fuel; the gap between the two is called the crack spread, and it normally runs $10–20 a barrel. Today it is around $100 "and they're staying there." That single number does the analytical work in this interview, because it discriminates between the two possible stories. If the world had genuinely stopped consuming fuel, crude and fuel would both be cheap and the gap would be normal. A gap this wide means fuel is scarce while crude is not — "that's the sign of a refining problem."
Follow that through and you get the alarming part. If refineries are processing 6 million fewer barrels a day while consumption is unchanged, the world is short 5–6 million barrels a day of finished fuel, and it must be coming out of storage. But refined-product storage is the one thing that cannot be measured from space: crude tanks have roofs that float down on top of the oil, so a satellite can read their fill level from the shadow the wall casts; fuel tanks have fixed roofs and give away nothing. The official estimate is that non-OECD product stocks are down 50 million barrels. "If we're right, it might be down 500 million" — and fuel shortages in Bangladesh, India and the Philippines are already in the news.
So why is this only a Neutral? Because being right about the shortage doesn't make products the thing to own — the $100 crack already says everyone knows. The gap should close with crude rising toward fuel, so he owns the crude side.
17:29And so we're seeing the crack spread, which is the difference between refined product prices and crude oil prices, which normally might average between 10 and 20 dollars, they hit 100 bucks. And they're staying there. That to me is not the sign of a very weak demand market. That's the sign of a refining problem.
In short: Physically the tightest thing in the complex — "refined product inventories are probably falling faster than anyone realizes," maybe 4 mb/d uncaptured — but already richly priced: the diesel crack at ~$102 vs a normal $20–30 means "diesel's trading as if oil was 155 a barrel." If he traded paper, "I probably would be betting that the crack spread would come down with oil benefiting."
A refinery buys crude oil and sells petrol, diesel and jet fuel; the difference between the two is called the "crack spread," and it is normally about $20–30 a barrel. Right now the diesel crack is around $102 — meaning diesel is priced as though crude were $155 rather than the $85 it actually trades at. That is the market screaming that the shortage is in fuel, not in oil.
Rozencwajg thinks that reading is correct: with China, Russia and the Gulf all refining less while people kept driving and flying, perhaps 4 million barrels a day of product inventory is draining without anyone measuring it, and "that's a gigantic problem." Diesel matters more than the others because it moves freight, farm equipment and construction — it feeds into the price of nearly everything.
But being right about the shortage doesn't make it the thing to own, because the price already reflects it. If he traded the physical market, "I probably would be betting that the crack spread would come down with oil benefiting" — that is, the gap closes by crude rising to meet diesel rather than diesel falling. He'd rather own the cheap end of that convergence.
49:26And that's a huge problem. That's a gigantic problem. And you can criticize me for having been early, but I think that that could manifest itself any day. — So, if the diesel crack spread I saw just a couple days ago was 102, normal 20 to 30, right? That's the normal refining margin.
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