In short: Second Chinese lab in the host's cost table — Kimi K3 at ~86¢ per test versus $1.86 for GPT-5.6 and $3.15 for Claude Fable 5. The exhibit behind Eisman's line that "the Chinese models are much cheaper, and this could eventually cause a price war."
4:04They found that Deep Six V4 flash charges 14 cents per million input tokens and 28 cents per million output tokens. So, from their testing they estimated V4 flash's average cost at 3 cents per test compared with 86 cents for Moonshot AI's Kimmy K3 versus $1.86 for OpenAI's ChatGPT 5.6 sole and $3.15 for Claude's Fable 5.
In short: Eisman's third counterargument, framed as the LLM providers' nightmare: "the price that they charge for tokens is like a fifth of what the other LLMs are charging… I've got a business with no moats, everybody's spending a ton of money, all these Chinese companies are coming in at a much lower price. That spells to me price war." Put in the seat: "if I was the head of Anthropic or OpenAI… I'd be petrified because I'm charging five to seven times more than this model."
Moonshot is the Chinese lab behind Kimi K3, the model Eisman uses as the third leg of his bear case. Its significance is entirely about price: tokens — the units AI providers bill by — cost roughly a fifth of what the American closed-source labs charge, for a model claimed to be just as capable.
If that claim holds, the American labs face a choice between losing customers and cutting prices, which is what "price war" means in practice. Note the episode's counter-argument: cheap open models don't hurt the chipmakers, the equipment makers or the cloud providers at all, because open models "use just as much compute as closed source models." The price war, if it comes, is confined to the model layer.
8:37Kimmy, I love that name. Kimmy K3. How you how they came up with the name Kimmy K3 of was Kimmy K2, I guess. But why Kimmy? So, the price that they charge for tokens is like a fifth of what the other LLM are charging. So, feels like I could make an argument. Again, I'm an outsider. This is not my area of expertise.
In short: "A Chinese AI company, Moonshot, announced the release of its new LLM model called Kimi K3. Moonshot claimed that Kimi K3 is as good as any LLM out there, but for a fraction of the cost." The consequence: "Prior to last week, we were worried about AI capital intensity and the lack of moats. Now, the possibility of a price war looms closer."
Moonshot is a Chinese AI lab. It released a model called Kimi K3 and claims it is as capable as any leading Western model "but for a fraction of the cost."
Why that matters for a US stock portfolio: the worry about AI used to be that it costs enormous sums to build (capital intensity) and that no company can keep a lasting lead (no moat). A credible, much-cheaper Chinese model adds the third leg — a price war, where everyone's AI revenue gets cut while the spending commitments stay. "Now, the possibility of a price war looms closer."
3:10Moonshot claimed that Kimi K3 is as good as any LLM out there, but for a fraction of the cost. Prior to last week, we were worried about AI capital intensity and the lack of moats. Now, the possibility of a price war looms closer. Moving on. SpaceX is now well below its IPO price. I'm not sure what this means yet, but it does not bode well for the IPO market.
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