In short: Cited as an example — named with Macy's, Gap and Kohl's as the high-yield department stores of 5–10 years ago. (Nordstrom has since gone private, so there is no live ticker.)
19:40And sure enough they cut the dividend. So I would really say that sometimes it even looks sustainable on paper but if it just doesn't logically make sense... You saw with the retailers, the retailers like Macy's and Gap and Nordstrom and all those and Kohl's, all those guys had huge yields five and 10 years ago but you knew that [clears throat] bricks and mortar retail was dying, they were in the death throes. Actually I think Macy's just had really good numbers which surprised me, but you knew that they were in the death throes, so
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