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The repeatable analysis behind the picks: not what the Pernas brothers own, but how they found it — written so the process can be rerun later on different names.
2026-AUG-07 · Monetary Matters (host Jack Farley) · Dean Pernas & Deiya Pernas, CFA (Pernas Research) · ▶ Watch · full analysis · transcript
How to read this page: each insight is a method — the map or screen that put them onto an idea, the discipline that turned it into a position, and the signal to watch when re-running it. The boxed line shows how it played out in this appearance. The through-line of the whole interview is a single move repeated in five different industries: identify a constraint or a mispricing at the famous layer of a stack, then buy the small, obscure company one rung away that captures the same tailwind at a fraction of the multiple. Timestamps deep-link into the video.

1:56 1. Map the stack in layers, then ask whose complement just got commoditised

The repeatable method
  1. Draw the industry as a vertical stack of layers. For AI: chips → infrastructure (clouds) → frontier models → applications. Any technology stack decomposes this way.
  2. Identify which layer has been capturing a disproportionate share of the economics. That layer is the one a price shock will hit.
  3. Apply "commoditize your complement": when the price of one layer collapses, demand for every other layer rises, because the complement got cheaper. Cheap tokens → more enterprise AI → more cloud consumption → higher GPU rental prices.
  4. Add Jevons paradox as the volume check: falling unit cost usually raises total spend rather than lowering it. "If those can get reduced 90% or so, Jevons paradox is still in effect."
  5. Conclusion: sell/avoid the commoditised layer, buy the layers whose complement it is. Do not read a sector-wide selloff as applying uniformly across the stack.
Here: a 40–50% one-month drawdown across the memory and AI complex (SNDK, SK Hynix) was treated by the market as bearish for everything. Their layer map says open weights are bearish for frontier labs only — the demand air pocket gets re-hosted on MSFT, GOOGL and AWS, and chips/applications improve (4:32).
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9:43 2. Start from a physical constraint, then walk down to the smallest company that relieves it

The repeatable method
  1. Find a hard physical bottleneck with a measurable number attached, not a narrative. Here: US grid demand flat at ~4,000 TWh for 20 years, AI heading to ~20% of the grid / ~100 GW by 2030, interconnection queues of 18–24 months.
  2. Ask what buyers are forced to do when the bottleneck binds — not what they would prefer to do. Forced behaviour is more forecastable than preference. Here: bring your own power.
  3. Ask what already exists that lets them do it today. The US "is very fortunate that they have natural gas pipelines almost everywhere," so on-site gas generation is the path of least resistance.
  4. Then walk one rung further out to the next constraint on that workaround — no pipeline at this site; too much load for one campus — and find who relieves that. Each rung is smaller, less covered and cheaper.
  5. Put a duration on the theme so you know when the thesis expires: he gives bring-your-own-power "3 to 5 years… until more alternatives can be brought to the market."
Here: grid queue → CEPL microturbines (1–3 month delivery). No pipeline at the site → SLNG's trucked "virtual pipeline" (17:19). Can't get 10 GW to one campus, and towns are imposing moratoriums → ten 1 GW sites that must behave as one machine → bandwidth up ~15× → SMOP.OL (11:18).
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13:24 3. The cheap-twin comp — buy the same tailwind at a fifth of the multiple

The repeatable method
  1. Take the consensus name everyone already owns for a theme and write down its multiple on a metric that survives loss-making (EV/sales works when there are no earnings).
  2. Find the company selling a functionally substitutable solution into the same buyers, and write down the same multiple.
  3. State honestly where the expensive one is genuinely better — Bloom's fuel cells are "a bit more efficient"; CrowdStrike and Palo Alto earn far more GAAP profit today. If you can't articulate the premium, you haven't understood it.
  4. Then decide whether the gap is bigger than the quality difference. "Valuation is a huge driver in our stock picks and we believe the tailwinds are just as strong."
  5. Only then check that the cheap twin has a specific reason to win a share of the demand — not merely that it is cheap. Capstone's is delivery speed; Tenable's is being first into exposure management with a large upsell base.
Here: BE at 15–20× revenue vs CEPL at ~3× for on-site power. CRWD and PANW "north of 20 times EV to sales" vs TENB at 4× for the next cyber platform shift (28:28). Also applied in reverse to the index itself: the hyperscalers average ~10× EV/sales while spending all their free cash flow and more — "a lot is going to have to go right" (7:36).
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29:36 4. Screen for what screens badly — the SBC normalisation trade

The repeatable method
  1. Look for companies that fail standard quantitative screens for a mechanical reason rather than a business reason. Screening failure removes a whole class of buyers, which is what creates the mispricing.
  2. The specific mechanic here: growth has decelerated but stock-based compensation is still set at growth-era levels, so GAAP earnings look terrible.
  3. Treat SBC correctly — "SBC is just like any other variable expense is how we believe investors should view SBC." Don't add it back, and don't treat it as permanent either.
  4. Ask one question: is there reason to believe SBC as a percentage of revenue falls quickly from here? If yes, GAAP earnings inflect sharply with no change in the underlying business.
  5. Buy ahead of the normalisation, not after the screen clears.
Here: SPT "screens quite poorly" for exactly this reason and was priced "for complete decapitation" — "it was very clear that the market was wrong on the probabilities." Up 50–60% since he flagged it in April. TENB is named as carrying the same distortion, and UPWK's ~6× EV/FCF is quoted after counting SBC, which is the honest version.
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30:50 5. The post-AI software moat checklist — an n-of-one test, not a sector call

The repeatable method
  1. Concede the part of the bear case that is true first: production-ready code now costs 90–95% less to produce, so "it clearly requires a re-evaluation of what it means to have staying power as a software company."
  2. Then refuse the blanket conclusion: "the evaluation is an n of one. You have to look at each of them as a case by case deal and not just a broad blanketed, okay, well software is going to get destroyed."
  3. Run the checklist on each name: Does it collect unique proprietary data nobody else has? Does it carry security and compliance obligations? Enterprise-grade features? How deep are the integrations into other systems? Is there a real-world component — logistics, construction, physical operations — or is it purely a digital tool?
  4. Grade small point tools as replaceable and full enterprise platforms as, so far, not: "none of these big software companies have actually seen any sort of supplanting of their products or services yet."
  5. Separately, check whether the multiple compression is about AI at all — often it's just a fast grower slowing down, which is a different (and less interesting) problem.
Here: PCOR is his example of the real-world-component test passing (giant construction projects). Asked to name a big software company AI has "one-shotted," he says "not really any" — but agrees the sell-off is rational because start-of-year multiples were indefensible (32:40).
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37:49 6. Bound the bear case with the company's own disclosure

The repeatable method
  1. When a stock is being sold on a plausible structural fear, don't argue with the fear — find where the company already reports the damage.
  2. Segment the disclosure until the fear is confined to a measurable slice: here, jobs under $500 versus everything above.
  3. Size the slice against the whole. If the damaged band is a minority of the business, the price is discounting the wrong denominator.
  4. Then look for the mirror-image company where that same band is the majority — you now have the short or the avoid, for free, from the same piece of research.
  5. Add your own primary evidence when you have it, while labelling it as anecdote: "we are big users of the Upwork platform and our spend on that platform has continued to grow… obviously we're an n of one."
Here: "You don't even have to take my word for it. You can just look at their data." Upwork discloses weakness only in sub-$500 jobs; that band is "a lot of Fiverr's business" but a minority of Upwork's — so UPWK Positive at ~1× EV/sales and FVRR Negative out of one disclosure (38:26).
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40:08 7. Variant perception is the entry test — including when you agree with the trend

The repeatable method
  1. Before buying, write down what the market believes and what you believe. If they're the same, there's no return in it regardless of how good the company is.
  2. Accept two valid shapes of variance: the market is wrong about a hated name, or the market is right about a loved trend but is underestimating its strength. "You can be with the momentum but if you think somehow the trend is even stronger than the current momentum suggests, that's a variant perspective that qualifies."
  3. Scale conviction with the size of the variance: "there's usually opportunities to make a lot more money the more variant your perception is."
  4. Frame it as probabilities, not certainty — the edge is "if you're right more often than you're wrong," and "the markets may be right on a lot of them a lot of times."
  5. Keep the portfolio deliberately mixed between with-the-tide and against-the-tide expressions of the same conviction so a single regime doesn't decide the year.
Here: against-the-tide is SPT and UPWK, bought while the market priced them for extinction. With-the-tide-but-more-so is CEPL, SLNG and SMOP.OL — obscure names riding the same wave as stocks that are already up a lot. And "investing is all about anticipating the future… the future contours of a business" is why he backs a growth acceleration at TENB against a decelerating optical revenue line (34:14).
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43:30 8. Three sleeves — let batting average vs slugging percentage set the size

The repeatable method
  1. Core, 5–15%: the highest-conviction, longest-horizon names, where their historical hit rate is "around 70%." Weight these most heavily — the return comes from being right often.
  2. Starter, ~3%: ideas taken before the full three months of work is possible, because "in this modern market, things can move so fast." Explicitly provisional: a starter is expected either to graduate to core or to be dropped.
  3. Speculative, 1–3%: names with "very little downside protection" where the point is slugging percentage, not batting percentage — "opportunity for multiples of returns in a short period of time."
  4. Match the sizing to the payoff shape, not to how exciting the story is. The exciting story usually belongs in the smallest sleeve.
  5. Let cash be the residual of the research process rather than a macro call: if origination isn't producing qualifying names, "we're going to have a higher cash weighting in the portfolio."
Here: SLNG at a ~$75m market cap is explicitly speculative — "the sizing is smaller with those companies" (19:04). Deiya's justification for holding richly-priced robotics exposure is the same logic seen from the other end: "even if you're paying up in multiple slightly… the opportunity set is just too enormous not to have exposure" (22:16).
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46:02 9. Averaging down, conditioned on the fundamentals — 20–30% of the alpha

The repeatable method
  1. Separate the two variables explicitly: what the fundamentals are doing versus what the price is doing.
  2. The add is triggered only by divergence in one direction — "if the fundamentals keep doing what you think they're going to be doing and the price is going the other way, you have to add to that position." Price weakness alone is not the trigger.
  3. Treat the add as a research event, not a reflex: at Pernas every portfolio action carries a written communication explaining it, which forces the fundamental case to be restated before capital goes in.
  4. Size the contribution honestly so it gets the attention it deserves — they attribute "about 20 to 30% of our alpha" to averaging down when appropriate.
  5. The corollary they state elsewhere: this is incompatible with "buy and hold forever." You have to keep re-underwriting, which means you must also be willing to exit when the fundamentals stop confirming.
Here: the discipline is stated as process rather than illustrated on a name — but the META round trip is the same test run to its opposite conclusion: bought near $90 when the fundamentals were intact and the price wasn't, sold above $700 when the valuation and the AI progression stopped confirming (49:53).
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48:50 10. Turn over rocks at a 1-in-100 hit rate — and publish the passes

The repeatable method
  1. Treat origination volume as the input variable you actually control. "The hit rate for us is roughly like one in a 100" on companies that get real research — so a portfolio of ten positions implies a thousand looks.
  2. Write up the rejections, not just the buys. Pernas publishes a weekly Stock Sonar of three names, many of them passes, "to give our members an inside view into the research process and where we're looking."
  3. Use the pass file as the calibration set for your own filter: "it gives people a deep understanding into our filter process," and it is what makes the acceptances legible — five robotics companies were rejected before one was bought, and that context is the actual information.
  4. Keep the write-ups short. Two to three paragraphs with "no fat at all" — brevity is what makes turning over a hundred rocks sustainable.
  5. Accept the portfolio consequence: when the rocks yield nothing, hold more cash. Origination output sets the invested weight, not the other way round.
Here: named passes include PYPL — liked Braintree's processing, refused branded checkout, and the whole failed because the profitable half was the vulnerable half (1:08:56) — plus Backblaze and a "TIC solutions" name in the published pass file (47:00).
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1:04:38 11. Sum-of-the-parts with leverage — quantify the hair before the upside

The repeatable method
  1. Find a subsidiary or segment inside a cheap company that can be valued standalone on a conventional multiple, and check it is genuinely separable — "it's a very portable business as well."
  2. Express it as a percentage of the whole enterprise value. If one clean asset is 60–70% of EV at 9–10× earnings, the rest of the company is close to free, and "not a lot has to go right for there to be a rerating."
  3. Then state the offsetting defect in the same breath, with numbers: "there is some hair on it with the leverage" — $2.5bn of debt against roughly $600m of book value.
  4. Adjust the growth rate for portfolio churn before judging it — after asset sales, "organically it's better than it screens."
  5. Ask what makes the cheap part structurally cheap rather than just unloved, and whether the niche is defensible: gaming and prediction-market processing works precisely because "the Stripes of the world, the Adians of the world typically stay away from that kind of business."
Here: PSFE — a digital-wallet subsidiary at 60–70% of EV as the rerating trigger, a gaming/prediction-market niche as the growth, and heavy leverage named up front as the reason it is cheap.
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Methods distilled from the public YouTube video for personal study. Pernas Research sells a paid subscription and this appearance carries a promotional discount offer. Not investment advice.