In short: "Very, very badly managed bond portfolio" — about $800 billion of bond investments yielding "a point and a half below the market average," which management won't restructure to avoid admitting a COVID-era mistake. "Shareholders don't control companies... managers control companies."
Bank of America holds about $800 billion of bonds, many bought when rates were near zero. Whalen says that portfolio earns about 1.5 percentage points less than the market average — "very, very badly managed." The bank could fix it, but management won't take the reputational hit of admitting the COVID-era mistake. His point: shareholders don't run companies, managers do, and here that costs shareholders real income.
25:50That would drop right down to the bottom line. But a lot of these management teams don't want to take the hit in terms of their reputation by saying, "Well, gee, we didn't do that right during COVID. We made a mistake." Bank of America is another case in point. Very, very badly managed bond portfolio.
In short: Cautious investment-banking comments at a conference fed the post-Fed bank weakness (11:53). Terranova: the banks are "totally in the momentum funds," so today's bounce is a reflex; Simpson: calling financials losers on higher rates is "sometimes a lazy trade." Santoli: a chair talking about "removing accommodation" turns up the pressure at the margin.
In short: Link holds through its worst day since April 2025. BofA guided Q3 investment-banking fees down more than 10%; Morgan Stanley called the reaction "way overdone" and reiterated overweight. Link: "I do own the name and I was surprised that the stock was down that much because they did have a lot of positive things to say… positive operating leverage this year instead of 500 basis points will be 200 to 300 basis points. That's a yield curve thing. I don't think it's really in their control… loan growth and demand growth… deposit growth… I'm not concerned at all, not at this valuation." Saccocia likes the group: even with lower IB fees, "trading is still going to be a huge driver."
Bank of America had its worst day in over a year after saying investment-banking fees would fall more than 10% this quarter and profit growth would be somewhat smaller than planned.
Link owns it and isn't worried. The smaller profit boost comes from the shape of interest rates (the difference between short and long rates), which the bank doesn't control, while loans and deposits are still growing. Saccocia adds that trading revenue should stay strong even if deal fees dip.
In short: The chat's two-year financials bull has flipped bearish on BofA. At record price-to-book with duration losses on the balance sheet and off-balance-sheet data-center loans — "you can buy one year puts on say Bank of America for very cheap."
Bank of America is the single-name version of the same bet, and the one he names twice. Puts on it are "really cheap," so a one-year put is his specific suggestion.
What triggered the view: the investor in his chat who made clients around a billion dollars in the 2008 subprime crisis, and who had been "a raging bull" on banks for two years, has flipped bearish on it. That is the two-to-three-unconnected-managers shift he trades on.
The underlying worry is that the bank sits at record price-to-book while holding both duration losses on bonds and the off-balance-sheet AI/data-center loans — and is buying credit insurance on its own borrowers, which tells you what it thinks of them.
36:44And you're record price to book right now on JP Morgan, on Bank of America. Absolutely record price to book and banks have been priced for, they're, everyone knows the bull case. The Trump Michelle Bowman at the Fed and deregulation. This has been out there for 2 years. So everyone on Wall Street is massively long the financials here.
In short: Named as part of the broadening: after the capital-markets banks led, "just in the last year we've seen more evidence of Bank of America and Bank of New York and Citigroup starting to push higher, breakout and make good headway." The lending banks — the ones most levered to net interest margin — are the second leg of the steepener trade.
Bank of America is one of three names Newton points to as evidence the bank rally is broadening beyond Wall Street trading desks: "in the last year we've seen more evidence of Bank of America and Bank of New York and Citigroup starting to push higher, breakout and make good headway."
The distinction matters. Goldman and Morgan Stanley make money from deal-making and trading; Bank of America is primarily a lender funded by ordinary deposits, so it is the purer beneficiary of the widening gap between short and long rates. A chart "breakout" — price clearing a level that had capped it — is Newton's confirmation that the fundamental tailwind is actually being paid for by buyers.
22:50Initially, it was more of the capital markets, the investment banks, the Goldman Sachs and the Morgan Stanleys. But just in the last year we've seen more evidence of Bank of America and Bank of New York and Citigroup starting to push higher breakout and make good headway. So, I'm very encouraged actually about the financial sector.
In short: The physical anchor of "Y'all Street": the half-built 30-story tower at the center of downtown Dallas, completing next year, will house Bank of America's regional headquarters together with the Texas Stock Exchange. Part of the migration economics — California taxes bank income at 10.8% while Texas has no corporate income tax, only a 0.75% margin tax on gross profit.
Bank of America's regional headquarters is the anchor tenant of the half-built 30-story Dallas tower that will also house the Texas Stock Exchange — the physical symbol of "Y'all Street." It is evidence of the migration rather than a view on the bank.
The arithmetic behind these moves is simple and large: California taxes bank income at 10.8%, while Texas levies no corporate income tax at all — only a 0.75% margin tax on gross profit. For a big financial institution, that difference is worth millions a year before any consideration of rents, wages or politics, which is why so much of the industry's growth is landing in one metro.
In short: Named twice as context: as the holder of the largest number of blockchain-technology patents (ahead of Visa and Mastercard), and via Brian Moynihan's consumer read — "Moynihan told us there's absolutely nothing going on in terms of delinquencies or people late to pay their bill. There's no sign of it." No stance on the stock.
In short: #16. Founded 1904, IPO 1979 — and the only bank on the list. "People will always need a safe place to keep their money. Bank of America's scale gives them a huge low-cost deposit base. Changing banks is a pain, creating switching costs, and strict regulations protect BoA from competition." Total return more than 1,300% since 1990, tied with Disney for the weakest on this half. Founded as the Bank of Italy in San Francisco to serve working-class immigrants; renamed in 1930. Regulation is presented here as a moat rather than a cost — the opposite of how banks are usually treated in this archive.
Bank of America takes in deposits from tens of millions of ordinary customers and lends that money out at a higher rate. The profit is the difference, and the key variable is how cheaply the deposits are obtained — which is a question of scale and inertia rather than skill.
Three durability arguments are given: people always need somewhere safe to keep money; the sheer size of the deposit base makes it a low-cost source of funding no newcomer can match; and moving your bank account is annoying enough that most people never do. Unusually, regulation is presented as protection rather than burden — heavy rules keep new competitors out. The record is the second-weakest here, above 1,300% since 1990, which reflects how badly banks did in the 2008 crisis. That crisis is not discussed.
In short: Cited only as one of "the mega-banks like JPMorganChase (JPM), Bank of America (BAC) and Citigroup (C) [that] broke out a year or two ago" — evidence that the multi-year range expansion now showing up across regional-bank charts already played out in the money-centers. No view taken on the shares.
In short: Also named in the "banks are an AI trade" peer set — at peak valuations with an investment-banking cycle dependent on AI financing needs.
18:48So, in a sense, owning Morgan Stanley, Goldman, Bank of America, Citigroup, etc. is just one more aspect of the AI trade. Simply put, buying banks to me does not provide diversification from tech. I am releasing a masterclass on how to analyze banks and how to value them in the near future, where I do a deep dive on the entire sector.
In short: At record highs alongside JPMorgan and Goldman — part of the "near-record buying in financials," the best-performing group over the past month and the biggest buying in the group since 2020 (per BofA's flow show).
In short: Link's counter to Terranova's "expectations too high" worry — "even like Bank of America" the bar isn't stretched. Cited in the bank-earnings-expectations debate; no fresh committee position.
In short: Named with JPM and Goldman among the big banks reporting this week — Carlson believes "all of them are doing really well" on heavy trading activity, credit-card volume and interest rates that have held up.
18:32Now, going through this week, we also have JP Morgan, we have ASML, and we have TSM. I'll first start off with JP Morgan and the big banks. Simply put, I think these earnings are going to be really good. These companies make a lot of money from trading activity, and the market has been highly volatile.
In short: Up ~12.5% in a month; named with the quality money-center banks (Goldman, JPM) capital is rotating toward.
In short: Still a seller of the financials — BAC trades way above its April lows; the sector's worst start vs the S&P since 2008.
Bank of America is a major U.S. bank. McDonald remains a seller of bank stocks generally.
His reasoning: investors piled into banks betting on looser regulation under the Trump administration, pushing prices well above their April lows. But the sector is having its worst start versus the S&P since 2008, and he thinks banks are exposed to the brewing private-credit stress — so he'd still bet against them.
10:38But the price to book of JP Morgan in recent months reached 2.6 times book. The historical average is like 1.6. So the banks just got crazy overbought. And yeah, they're still really expensive. — I was going to go back to those gates that people put up on private equity and private credit. I think you remember this back in the hedge fund days, they learned that the hard way and started putting up gates so you couldn't get your money out. Do you see private equity in the same boat?
In short: Down ~13% off the highs — bank equities flashing the "worst start for financials since 2008."
Bank of America is one of the largest U.S. banks. McDonald flags it as a symptom, not a one-off: bank stocks are off to their "worst start since 2008," with BofA already down about 13% from its highs.
The reason he cares: weak bank shares are an early tell that stress is building in the credit system. Banks sit at the center of lending, so when their stocks crack while the rest of the market holds up, it suggests trouble is brewing under the surface.
13:36And so that that's we're heading for that kind of world. the um right now we have a situation where like you said credit conditions may be worsening. So what is a credit market telling us right now in terms of risk that maybe the stock market isn't telling us or hasn't even priced it yet? — Well, let's look at the bank equities like Bank of America down 13% off the highs maybe down 10 11 12% on the year.
In short: Bill — method reference. Bought in the '08–09 crisis / Occupy Wall Street policy-headwind pressure — the "petri dish" for the same play now on UnitedHealth. Not framed as a current buy.
34:40time. And then 6 months later, uh, JP Morgan had the whale trade. They lost $6 billion on the whale trade and and their stock plummeted and we jumped on that. We we took advantage of those. So, — there's one big difference though. Back then, the US banks, their return had to go way up to be good.
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