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Forest for the Trees (FFTT) · former Cleveland Research / Midwest Research analyst · author ("The Mr. X Interviews") — running synthesis of his interviews, with per-appearance breakdowns and a stock index. Top-down macro: US fiscal/Treasury plumbing, the dollar, oil, gold & the move toward a multipolar settlement system.
Sections: stock index · overall thesis · appearances. Last updated 2026-SEP-13.

Stock & name index

▲ Positive

TickerNameCurrent thesisResearchSeen inTotal $k
CopperCopper (commodity)Structural scarcity money cannot fix, now stated as a preference: 'I like them. I like silver. I like copper. Copper quietly is what, like almost seven bucks?' The grid is the driver — US electricity generation was flat 2004-2024 while China's went to 2x — and the build cannot be financed into existence: 'you cannot build a grid with dollar swap lines.' The AI/reshoring build-out needs ~50 mega mines in 20 years and the deposits don't exist.2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14
GDXVanEck Gold Miners ETFOwned but deliberately subordinate — 20-25% against 75-80% bullion. The gold/oil ratio (a miner-profitability proxy) has run 6x→60x and fiscal dominance pushes it higher, but 'if gold's going back into the system there are risks of nationalization' and 'it's a lot easier to grab gold in the ground'; he'd rather not be 'wrong for the right reason.' Sep-13 folds them into one sized bucket — 'probably 40% gold and gold miners' — with no miner-specific argument.QT · SA · STK2026-SEP-13 · 2026-AUG-14 · 2026-JUL-09
GLDSPDR Gold SharesCore position and the destination of every argument — 'all roads lead to gold.' The trade wins on both branches of the 4.7-4.8% line in the sand: 'if it goes over 4.8 and goes into a debt spiral, you want to own gold. And if they inject liquidity to stop it at 4.8, you want to own gold.' Gold is now a bigger share of FX reserves than treasuries, central-bank buying returned to record highs in Q2, and his own one-month fix starts with the ESF bidding gold before a §2.10 revaluation. Held as bullion in private vaults, 75-80% of the metals book. Sep-07 adds the pre-positioning argument: when trillion-dollar balance sheets finally agree, 'they're going to go to hit the sell button and it's not going to work' — markets shut two to three weeks and 'when they reopen, you will own what you own at the new allocation.' The 1998 Ukrainian bank holiday is his evidence: the gold and silver holders 'were fine. Nothing changed for them.' Sep-13 (with Darius Dale) adds the regime tell: gold up ~1.5% on a day the 10-year sold off 5bp — 'when you have 120% debt to GDP… when rates go up gold is a buy not a sell' — and the ninth inning is upsized buybacks with no pretenses and 'gold moving $100, $200, $300 days.' Stated allocation: ~40% gold and gold miners.QT · SA · STK2026-SEP-13 · 2026-SEP-07 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14 · 2026-AUG-02 · 2026-JUL-23 · 2026-JUL-09 · 2026-JUN-10
GRIDFirst Trust NASDAQ Clean Edge Smart Grid Infrastructure ETFSecond component guide (with PAVE) to US electrical-infrastructure equities — grid/power-equipment names that are 'generation agnostic' (gas/coal/nuke/hydro), riding years of open-field order backlogs. Sep-13 (theme only, no ETF named): US generation flat 2004-2024 while China went from 30% of US capacity to 2.5x — 'very early days… a lot of open field running.'QT · SA · STK · FA2026-SEP-13 · 2026-AUG-02 · 2026-JUL-23
IBITiShares Bitcoin TrustLiked outright — 'I like Bitcoin long term' — with a sovereign-scale caveat attached in the same breath: Bessent 'has been talking about controlling the pipelines and the on and off ramps,' and while purists don't need ramps, 'at sovereign levels that's a bit much.' Gold moves without permission or banking pipelines; Bitcoin captures the same debasement but is the second choice for the buyer that matters. Sep-07 reframes it as pre-positioning rather than price: 'there isn't going to be a shift, an orderly shift or even a one month shift of trillion dollar balance sheets into gold and Bitcoin. They'll shut the markets and then they'll reopen them two weeks later and Bitcoin will be where it is.' Sep-13 sizes it: 'probably six 7% Bitcoin, five six% Bitcoin' of the book; Dale adds that the dollar debases ~35% a year against Bitcoin, faster if Paradigm D is pulled forward.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-SEP-13 · 2026-SEP-07 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14 · 2026-JUL-23 · 2026-JUL-09 · 2026-JUN-10
IndustrialsIndustrials / steel & iron ore (theme — no single ticker named)Positioning, stated flat: 'it tells me I want to own industrials.' Steel and iron ore go in the same bucket — 'you cannot build a grid with dollar swap lines.' The cycle is ahead, not behind: private manufacturing construction is down 18% year-over-year even with AI running, so today's inflation is what you get before the build starts — 'what do you think inflation is going to be when construction spending is actually up?'2026-AUG-20
Japanese industrial equitiesJapanese industrial equities (theme — no single ticker named)Reshoring theme — the US can't rebuild without Japan (China off-limits); Japan's industrials have lagged the AI-headline stuff and 'also do very well.' Still early days, a multi-year setup.2026-AUG-02 · 2026-JUL-23
PAVEGlobal X U.S. Infrastructure Development ETFUS electrical-infrastructure play — 20 yrs of near-zero added power capacity now colliding with AI/reshoring demand; named as a component guide to the theme (alongside his private metal-fabricator PE deal seeing multi-year backlogs). Sep-13 sizes the theme at ~15% of the book (no ETF named): 'not as sanguine on AI specific. I am as sanguine on the buildout. I prefer to play it via electrical infrastructure equities.'QT · SA · STK2026-SEP-13 · 2026-AUG-02 · 2026-JUL-23
SLViShares Silver Trust (silver)Positive — his first actual view on silver after the Aug-14 title-only mention. Asked about non-gold metals and minerals: 'I like them. I like silver. I like copper.' Sits in both buckets at once: a monetary metal riding the same debasement as gold, and an industrial input to the grid/reshoring build. No target and no allocation given — a stated preference, not a developed thesis. Sep-07 keeps it there but adds both halves of the freeze argument: the 1998 Ukrainians holding 'gold and silver' came through intact, while 1980's Hunt-brothers COMEX episode — 'the buy button stopped working' — is his template for a market simply switched off when everyone arrives at once.QT · SA · STK2026-SEP-07 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14
SPYSPDR S&P 500 ETFLong in dollars, short in gold — stated as a rule: 'shorting American stocks in dollar terms is not a good idea. Shorting them in gold has been a great idea.' S&P total return is −30% against gold since the Fed began hiking in early 2022 and −50% since 2000, and he expects gold to keep outperforming for two to five years. The nominal side goes vertical under his own fix — 'Dow probably goes from 50,000 to 100,000' — alongside 10-15% inflation. Sep-13 names it the 'Argentinization' of US stocks — 'S&P up in dollar terms but down in gold terms,' down 10-15% in gold since Powell's Q4-2018 pivot while up ~200% in dollars — and holds blended large caps as the balance of the allocation.QT · SA · STK2026-SEP-13 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14 · 2026-AUG-02 · 2026-JUN-10
T-billsUS Treasury bills / cash (asset class)Positive — ~15% of the book (Sep-13), held for two reasons. Optionality in 'a highly political market' where narratives whipsaw gold (Dan Oliver's Reichsmark chart: the trend won, but levered longs 'lost all your money four or five different times in five years'; 'sell gold, Warsh is a hawk' is today's version). And carry: 'I look at my cash position as earning a yield on my gold' — T-bills at ~3.5% make a 'positive one and a half% carry across my cash and bullion.'2026-SEP-13

► Neutral / referenced

TickerNameCurrent thesisResearchSeen inTotal $k
BLKBlackRockReferenced through Larry Fink, and by the host — 'are you doubting Larry Fink's ability to raise money? I'm not.' Gromen's rejoinder is about the source rather than the firm: 'he's probably over in Saudi Arabia getting money. And I would say, from who? What money do the Middle East have to invest now?' — the UAE having just needed emergency swap lines. Sep-07 makes it a historical exhibit rather than a company view: via a Jim Rickards book, 'Treasury's got a direct line into BlackRock… in a crisis, Treasury can pick up the phone, make one call and lock down 5 trillion of capital. That's it. No sales. And the rest of the market would follow' — evidence the exit closes administratively, not economically.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-SEP-07 · 2026-AUG-20
BYDDYBYD Co. (ADR)Referenced, not a pick — BYD used to illustrate Chinese 'cheaper and better' competitiveness (rode them in the UK, 'a good quality product'); the export offer the US won't let in.SA · STK2026-AUG-02 · 2026-JUL-23
FCXFreeport-McMoRanReferenced, not a pick — the third major named at the White House mining press conference. Sits inside the copper-scarcity argument rather than carrying its own view: even permitted and financed, a large new mine needs a thousand people on site for 12-18 months, and the deposits the build-out needs don't exist.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-AUG-14
GOOGLAlphabet (Google)Referenced by the host, not a pick — Google's reported '800 billion dollars in forward purchase commitments' offered as evidence that Q4 results will confirm what the off-balance-sheet agreements already show. Gromen concedes the near-term point ('the bubble hasn't popped yet') while insisting every prior capex boom ended in a bust.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-AUG-20
HuaweiHuawei Technologies (private, China)Referenced, not a pick — named beside BYD and solar as the goods base that makes the yuan worth accepting, the first leg of China's yuan-invoicing / gold-settlement architecture.2026-AUG-02
MPCMarathon PetroleumNamed in passing, no thesis — the obvious expression of the war's one clean winner after the host notes refined products stayed 'stubbornly high' while crude fell, so 'the refining margins have been really really high.' Gromen's answer is the ticker itself; no position is implied.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-AUG-20
NEMNewmont CorporationReferenced, not a pick — listed with Rio Tinto and Freeport at the White House mining event. No company view; the discussion is 40 years of financialization leaving 'not the bench depth… not the bench at all' in US mining.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-AUG-143.4
Northwestern MutualNorthwestern Mutual (private mutual insurer)Disclosed as a conservative allocation slice — AAA-rated life-insurance equity earning ~6% federal- and state-tax-free; a stable cash-substitute holding, not a market call.2026-JUL-09
NVDANVIDIAReferenced, not a pick — cited as evidence the AI bubble is still being fed credit rather than as a company call: 'you got NVIDIA, Jensen bragging about creating a compute security derivative… No judgment. I know what that is. That's making it easier to get more credit to them. So the bubble's not over yet.' Sep-13 mention is Darius Dale's, not Gromen's: with 85-90% of federal receipts coming from workers AI displaces, redistributive taxes after 2028 go where the money is — 'they're gonna go Nvidia.'QT · SA · STK · FA2026-SEP-13 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-JUN-10
RIORio TintoReferenced, not a pick — named by the host as a major invited to the White House hard-rock-mining press conference. Gromen's reply is about the policy, not the company: $100 million on mining education 'over an undefined period' against $37 billion spent in Iran in four months.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-AUG-140.5
SemiconductorsSemiconductors / AI equities (sector — no single ticker named)Take profits, don't short — 'I wouldn't short them here.' New credit is still arriving (SEC loosening AI securitization rules, PE syndication, a compute derivative), and manias end when the credit stops, not when valuations get silly, so 'the bubble's not over yet.' But his own history work is the timing rule: two to three years into every prior capex boom you did better selling most of it and buying gold, which won over the full cycle every time. Sep-13 restates it against Darius Dale's outright AI bull case (capital deepening at a record 22.3%, a bubble into end-2027/mid-2028): AI is the sixth and largest US capex boom, 'I tend to be more cautious about the equities there,' and AI borrowing to eliminate labor competes with Bessent's employment-based tax base.2026-SEP-13 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-JUL-23

▼ Negative

TickerNameCurrent thesisResearchSeen inTotal $k
FXYInvesco CurrencyShares Japanese Yen Trust (yen)Negative — the interventions keep failing. Bessent sold ~11 billion euro of reserves to buy yen, trailed on Instagram so hedge funds would front-run him, and 'it bounced back pretty quickly… already retraced over half of that full intervention.' The war did the damage: 'the yen gets killed, energy costs go up on the yen, so now the JGB markets sell.' The constraint is symmetric — too strong a yen unwinds the yen carry trade, too strong a dollar the dollar carry trade — so the only play is recurring liquidity to hold a band.QT · SA · STK2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14
Private creditPrivate credit (asset class)Negative, inferred from the trade that didn't happen. Insurers swapped long treasury duration for SOFR-linked private loans; then the 10-year hit 4.7 and they still didn't buy. 'If they could sell it at a decent mark and buy a 10-year Treasury bond at 4.7, 4.75, they would have — and they didn't. That gives you all you need to know about the actual liquidity and solvency.' He ties the UAE's scramble for swap lines to being 'up to their chin in private credit' when Hormuz shut — and reads it straight through to more liquidity: 'buy gold.' Sep-07 adds Lyn Alden's precision: the redemption gate is a liquidity feature written into the contract (closer to full-reserve banking than a bank run, since the lenders are pensions/insurers/family offices lending savings, not payroll), while solvency is a separate question — 'on the margins we do see solvency issues… it's still unclear how big some of those solvency areas could be.' Sep-13 puts a number on the standoff (citing Nick Neoth's Substack): of a $10trn life-insurance industry, $1.54trn is affiliated reinsurance against ~$647bn of total reserves — 'if the marks are bad enough, they're out of reserves,' and they sell Treasuries and mortgage-backs to fill the hole. Expected fix: regulatory relief, 'just QE through the life insurance industry.'2026-SEP-13 · 2026-SEP-07 · 2026-AUG-20
TLTiShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETFNegative in real terms and deliberately not nominally — nominal-default odds are 'zero,' and 'I don't know that I'm really nominally bearish on the long bond here.' The damage comes through the numeraire: in gold terms TLT is down 90-95% since 2014, when central banks stopped buying treasuries on net, with 'another 90 to 95% to go against gold' and the next leg 'all gold.' Vol stays elevated: hedge funds now own 8.5% of the treasury market via the levered basis trade. Sep-07 adds Lyn Alden's buyer-by-buyer census from the other direction — foreigners short of the run rate as a share of issuance, a balance-sheet hawk at the Fed, banks needing further SLR relief, insurers and pensions unable to lever — 'so I do think that they're getting squeezed,' a 'pretty orderly degradation of the global bond market'; Gromen's version is 'a nonlinearity facing him at the long end.' Sep-13 (with Darius Dale): 'they're going to lose the long end no matter what they do' — a hike is 'a pay raise to 65 million boomers' that widens the deficit and lifts the dollar into foreign selling, a cut into 8% nominal growth lifts it too. He accepts Dale's five-model 10-year fair value of 5.87% and argues the path is convex ('48, 52, 58, 62 happen fairly quickly') because life insurers can't buy at any yield.QT · SA · STK · FA2026-SEP-13 · 2026-SEP-07 · 2026-AUG-20 · 2026-AUG-14 · 2026-AUG-02

Overall thesis

In one line: the US is cornered into a single choice — sacrifice the dollar (inflation) or the bond market (higher rates) — and as of 2026-AUG-19 the choice has been made in public: Bessent doubled Treasury buybacks in the 10-to-30-year sector, which Gromen reads not as a panic but as the next rung on an eighteen-month ladder — "essentially a version of operation twist… another soft form of yield curve control," the same vector as the UAE/Japan FIMA swap lines, the yen intervention and the stablecoin push. The arithmetic that forces it: entitlements + interest + veterans' benefits = 105% of receipts, growing 7.5% against receipts at 4%, with $1.4trn of net borrowing over the next two quarters — so it was "mathematically impossible" for Warsh to be a hawk, and the Iran war (10-year 3.94% → 4.74%) was "the straw that broke the camel's back." The whole book reduces to one level: over ~4.8% on the 10-year you own gold, and if they inject liquidity to stop it at 4.8 you own gold. The template is 1946–51 — debt/GDP 110% → 55% in five years, real rates −3%, bondholders losing half to two-thirds — and his own one-month version is explicit: ESF bids gold, settle China deficits in gold, revalue the certificates under Fed accounting manual §2.10 (≈$5trn into the TGA), buy back the long end, stuff the rest into 60bp stablecoin T-bills, at the cost of 10–15% inflation and a Dow at 100,000. Positioning: long stocks in dollars, short stocks in gold; gold bullion 75–80% / miners 20–25%; own industrials, silver and copper; stay away from the long end (TLT −90–95% vs gold since 2014 with "another 90 to 95% to go… mostly via gold"). The duration he wants is "0% yielding, infinite face value, infinite duration, and finite issuance." 2026-SEP-07 sharpens two things and adds a third. The rate call is now stated as an impossibility, not a probability — true interest expense (gross interest + Social Security + Medicare + Medicaid + VA) is 105% of receipts growing 7–12% against receipts at 4%, one hike takes it to 107% growing 8–9 and a second to 110% growing 10, so "Warsh isn't going to hike rates. He's not. He can't," and the "we owe it in our own currency" defence dies because entitlements are owed in a hard currency: "we didn't owe my dad a payment for Medicare. We owed him a knee." The long end is a nonlinearity, not a slope — every patient buyer is gated at once (hedge funds only while vol is low, foreign central banks net-absent 12–13 years, insurers and pensions unable to mark down private credit). And the new leg is the pre-positioning argument: you will not get out. When trillion-dollar balance sheets finally agree, "they're going to go to hit the sell button and it's not going to work" — 1980 COMEX silver, Treasury's one-call line into BlackRock, a two-to-three-week closure — and "when they reopen, you will own what you own at the new allocation." Alongside him Lyn Alden reaches the same structure by a different road and lands softer on the near term (base case zero-to-one hike, "if we get the one, it'd be kind of symbolic"), which is the useful cross-check on this hub's central call. 2026-SEP-13 (Thoughtful Money, with Darius Dale of 42 Macro) puts him in the "sixth, seventh, or even eighth inning" of a bond-market crisis — the gauge being true interest expense at 105% of receipts per the Q3 TBAC report, and the tell being gold rising with yields while buybacks climb from $6bn toward 8 and 10 — and, unusually, states the allocation: ~15% T-bills, ~40% gold and gold miners, ~15% electrical-infrastructure equities, ~5–7% Bitcoin, the balance in blended large caps ("S&P up in dollar terms but down in gold terms"). Dale's five models independently put the 10-year's fair value at 5.87% and both expect explicit yield curve control by end-2027 to end-2028; they split on whether the Fed should hike (Dale yes; Gromen: a hike is "a pay raise to 65 million boomers" and "they're going to lose the long end no matter what they do").

Appearances

One dated page per interview — each has its stock table, talking points and an "In plain English" section. Newest first.

DateTitle / analysis pageShowVideoTextActionable insights
2026-SEP-13 Which Inning Are We In? (joint discussion with Darius Dale, 42 Macro — Dale's views attributed) Thoughtful Money (Adam Taggart) ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-SEP-07 The Global Bond Market Is Starting To Break (co-guest: Lyn Alden — both voices analysed) BTC Sessions (Ben Perrin) ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-AUG-20 Why U.S. Treasury's Bond Market Intervention Is Just The Beginning Monetary Matters (Jack Farley) ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-AUG-14 These Are The Catalysts That Could Send Gold & Silver To New Highs Goldfinger Capital (Robert Sinn) ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-AUG-02 Equities Extremely Complacent; De-lever and Prepare to Buy The Dip The Master Investor Podcast (Wilfred Frost) ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-JUL-23 As The Conflict Turns MacroVoices #542 ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-JUL-09 Fiscal Dominance × The Geopolitical Risk Premium FFTT weekly Q&A ▶ YouTube transcript actionable insights
2026-JUN-10 Warsh Must Choose The Dollar Or The Bond Market Forward Guidance (Blockworks) ▶ YouTube transcript

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